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Old 04-12-2016, 06:10 AM   #21
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

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I'm not sure how it is with you guys but the bridging of 32 bit into 64 bit on Reaper isn't perfect and there's definitely a bit of lag when I use too many bridged plugins in a large session (all of them are large at this point and we're talking 70+ channels)...can anyone else confirm on another DAW or even Reaper?
I kept having a lot problems when I was using a lot of bridged freeware plugins, too (in Live, in all versions since I started using 64bit with jbridge). It got much better when I cleaned up my plugin folder a few times (and upgraded my pc). Now I use much less bridged plugins and none at all in some projects. But sometimes, when I thought a problem was caused by a bridged plugin, it was in fact caused by a non-bridged commercial plugins, especially when using multiple instances of some stuff...

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Old 09-12-2016, 02:10 AM   #22
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

So Cubase 9 just came out yesterday and they completely dropped support for 32-bit plugins...
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:23 AM   #23
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

How I should this still a thing?

I can understand that you want to keep a treasured plugin that's no longer supported, but to ask if there is an advantage to 32bit?

If your OS has a 64Bit architecture, you would want to take advantage of that.

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Old 09-12-2016, 05:54 AM   #24
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

I just want to not read any of this and yell a bunch and say fuck a lot. In summary I don't know the answer to your question because I use Reason 7.1 or something and don't even know how many bits it is.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:05 AM   #25
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

64-bit.

When you're like me and stuck in the past, you find less and less 32-bit friendly VST's and end up frustrated a lot. It's kind of like owning a PS3 in 2016
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:42 AM   #26
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

Yeah, I had a large stack of 32 bit plugins but I went and whacked a partition table, destroying all of those, my sample library, some of my songs - 750gb of *stuff*

running 64 bit now and I don't really miss any plugins so, life goes on
I'm under no misconceptions about 32 bit

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Old 09-12-2016, 02:30 PM   #27
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:18 PM   #28
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the first plugin, the only one so far that I miss, Magical8BitPlug - seems to only have a 64 bit version for Mac

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Old 09-12-2016, 09:09 PM   #29
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

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How I should this still a thing?

I can understand that you want to keep a treasured plugin that's no longer supported, but to ask if there is an advantage to 32bit?

If your OS has a 64Bit architecture, you would want to take advantage of that.
Well for me that's exactly it. Variety of Sound has quite a few stellar plugins that I simply can't live without and none of those are 64 bit. Otherwise I'd pretty much skip out on 32 bit altogether.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:54 AM   #30
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

what is the best system? 32 o 64 for techno music production?
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Old 10-12-2016, 02:00 AM   #31
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what is the best system? 32 o 64 for techno music production?
theres no such thing as a best system what is your computer specks now
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Old 10-12-2016, 02:40 AM   #32
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

Can't live without 32 bit?

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- for cheap cunts
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- for ease of use

Hell you can even install a 16 bit OS if you really care about using that one obscure audio plugin from the 80s.

Kind of think this whole expectation of devs supporting dead technology is stupid. If you want to use that tech, support yourself... that used to be a thing in audio production. Now everyone's a fucking snowflake that can't even loom cables

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Old 13-12-2016, 12:03 AM   #33
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

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Kind of think this whole expectation of devs supporting dead technology is stupid.
Pretty much this.

A lot of people also lose sight of the fact that most plugins are convenience tools that don't really do anything you can't do yourself by learning how things work. Not all, but most.

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Old 11-02-2017, 08:21 PM   #34
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64 bit gives you more ram, i think i'm right, am i..
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Old 11-02-2017, 09:19 PM   #35
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

64 bit all the way as I find the plugins that are coming out these days are bit more CPU intensive...but that's because they are getting better. Also if you want to OS plugins you will need all the memory you can get. Luckily for me, in mastering, I don't the amount of plugins that someone would if they were mixing.
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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

Not sure why people wouldnt naturally move forward with 64bit. Larger memory foot print. Developers reduction in producing 32bit.

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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

For any Windows DAW users running on Linux via WINE, I asked about some of this type of thing at the Reaper forums and investigated some of the WineHQ website as well as the Ubuntu Forums.

64-bit Linux OS'es can still run 32-bit Wine which might be preferred until 64-bit WINE catches up with 32-bit WINE in terms of stability and software compatibility/support. The WineHQ website states in the FAQs that 64-bit WINE still has the issues I just mentioned (more unresolved bugs, and less supported).

64-bit Linux OS is probably preferred these days unless you need 100% backwards compatibility with old hardware/firmware such as a cheap used computer. However, the Linux organizations such as Ubuntu are now formally talking about ending official 32-bit support in a few years. But it shouldn't matter too much, because some portions will still support 32-bit a bit longer, such as Lubuntu probably, and maybe Xubuntu and other similar Linuxes.

These days though, even the used computers usually support 64-bit, so 64-bit OS even and especially for Linux is getting better and more appropriate. Even the good old Puppy Linuxes are getting into the 64-bit swing of things.

One caveat though, is that with 64-bit Linux and WINE, you might need to install a lot more dependencies if you still use 32-bit softwares. But if the OS itself isn't too dense, it shouldn't matter too much.

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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

The only reason I had thought of staying on 32 bit was for plugins that don't have 64 bit versions yet,

I accidentally wiped my 32 bit installation anyway so i've since moved to 64 bit Ableton

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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

I use both 32 bit and 64 bit plugins because I'm a plugin hoarder.

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Re: 32 bit VS 64 bit : WHO WINS?!

Most of my favorite plugins are classic oldies that are only in 32-bit.
But it was never a problem, because I never ran out of RAM or had any othe r32-bit issues.

But I do like the idea of moving up to 64-bit as much as possible.
Gradually, there will be other creators making similar VST's.

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