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Old 15-08-2012, 05:53 AM   #1
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What to do? Where to start?

Im not going to make a long post, so here is the case:

- Im trying to make dubstep/complextro

- Im having a HARD time getting started, i simply dont know what i wanna do first, what structure my song should have.

- I dont have a bunch of knowledge with making my own synths and sounds, so far ive been using presets and samples...

So if someone could guide me in the right direction, that would be fantastic, even the smallest tip on where i should start or begin will help...

Im trying to figure out basslines.... and where to put them.... but... im just clueless on where i should go.... so any tips will help!

THanks in advance!

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Old 15-08-2012, 06:00 AM   #2
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

It takes time, honestly. Read, read, read, read, read, watch tutorials, read some more.

There are a lot of people on these forums that really know what they are talking about. Start somewhere and just soak up all the info that you can. Read the manual to FL studio. Listen to songs with a similar style you want to make, and really listen to the structure. Try to pinpoint every single sound.

Then read some more
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Old 16-08-2012, 05:59 PM   #3
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

well heres how i started:


new york compresses kick.

, choose 1 fat layered bass synth, that carries the whole song. place it on the first kick of every 4/4 bar.

fill the rest 3/4 beat with 3-4 different leadsynths (wobble, polysaw, pluck, etc) pitchshift those leads a lot.

andlet each synth play for one full note. like

---1----- 2 ------- 3- -------4 ---
Bass--Polysw----Pluck---Wobble repeat.


(For an silly example, but it should get you started, just playing every synth for 1 full note^^ ).

play with different bleeps and bloops i guess.

whitenoise over everything

sidechain everything to the kick.





thats it gl and again, practice, read and watch tutorials on how to do electro /layer synths and compress the hell out of everything^^

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Old 16-08-2012, 11:49 PM   #4
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

check out ARTFX studios on youtube. he has a weekly tutorial going that teaches you to do a electro/dub track. not bad. ive followed and recraeted for the hell of it and to learn more and its pretty good. shows you how to structure a track and lay it out as well so far.
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Old 17-08-2012, 12:16 AM   #5
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

youtube tutorials are your friend. you can learn just about anything on there.
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Old 17-08-2012, 03:45 PM   #6
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

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well heres how i started:


new york compresses kick.

, choose 1 fat layered bass synth, that carries the whole song. place it on the first kick of every 4/4 bar.

fill the rest 3/4 beat with 3-4 different leadsynths (wobble, polysaw, pluck, etc) pitchshift those leads a lot.

andlet each synth play for one full note. like

---1----- 2 ------- 3- -------4 ---
Bass--Polysw----Pluck---Wobble repeat.


(For an silly example, but it should get you started, just playing every synth for 1 full note^^ ).

play with different bleeps and bloops i guess.

whitenoise over everything

sidechain everything to the kick.





thats it gl and again, practice, read and watch tutorials on how to do electro /layer synths and compress the hell out of everything^^

Thanks for the reply man! But ive tried to put some sounds together... but it sounds so... lame and boring... nothing interesting really... any tips on how to make things more.. complex?
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Old 17-08-2012, 11:47 PM   #7
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

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Thanks for the reply man! But ive tried to put some sounds together... but it sounds so... lame and boring... nothing interesting really... any tips on how to make things more.. complex?
Here's my two:

Make a drum loop, doesn't matter if it's crap or not. Add some efx. Record the effected loop to audio. Chop the audio into slices. Rearrange these slices until it sounds interesting to you.

Then...

Add some more effects. Record effected chopped new loop to another audio track. Add more efx > chop again > rearrange and repeat this process. You can do this as much or as little as you want and you can do it with anything not just drum loops.

It will allow you to come up with an interesting sound pallet that is unique to you.I like using delay on my drums when I'm making the process that I described above.

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Old 18-08-2012, 09:01 AM   #8
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

I would start from building a nice melodic theme, after that building the rhythm over it.

do you have theoretical knowledge in music?
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Play with different bleeps and bloops i guess."

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Old 19-08-2012, 01:17 AM   #10
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

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Im not going to make a long post, so here is the case:

- Im trying to make dubstep/complextro

- Im having a HARD time getting started, i simply dont know what i wanna do first, what structure my song should have.

- I dont have a bunch of knowledge with making my own synths and sounds, so far ive been using presets and samples...

So if someone could guide me in the right direction, that would be fantastic, even the smallest tip on where i should start or begin will help...

Im trying to figure out basslines.... and where to put them.... but... im just clueless on where i should go.... so any tips will help!

THanks in advance!
So what I do with complextro is first right a melody with one bass patch.
Then I take the melody and chop it up, shorten parts, make others longer, and leave gaps in between notes.
Then I take the gaps in between the melody parts and fill them with other sounds and notes to give it the complextro part while still maintaining the melody part .

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Old 19-08-2012, 01:49 PM   #11
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Re: What to do? Where to start?

You need to know what you want to achieve, how your going to do this and what tools you will need and how to use them correctly. So use the net and research.

I'd suggest you listen and analyze the music that your interested in making. That's what I did, but I did it for like 5+ years before I went near a DAW or synth.

Read about the genre and learn how its made, structured, arranged, production aspects, mixes, etc.

You can pretty much forget about making anything good/complex right away as anything to do with music often requires years of skills and practice. So keep that in mind all the times you get pissed off and frustrated.

Goodluck.

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Re: What to do? Where to start?

Rather than starting off trying to create your master-work, try to create a series of partial songs that do one specific thing well. Once you've built up a nice toolbox of techniques you can start to use those tools to make tunes that are more complex and complete sounding.

It takes time to get where you can be confident that you're in control of the sound but it is fun along the way.

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