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Old 18-10-2013, 04:11 AM   #21
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Re: Beginner to percussion

I listened.

I wouldn't rave to it primarily because I don't really rave to anything, bit that's another story.

Anyway...

The advice you took was to make something that's not the same samey same stuff as all the "big names" and everyone else. Doesn't seem like you're doing anything all that different than what I imagine you were doing prior to "taking the advice."

If I were you I'd start by dropping that lead and the 4x4 kick then work forward from there.

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Old 18-10-2013, 04:33 AM   #22
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synthwell: please please please do yourself a favor and look up the definition of idm and look at the artists that exemplify the genre.

i don't think this is really the place to rave about drops, hardwell and archetypal edm.
i'm trying to be nice here, but the edm that you seem to worship dumbs down most conversations. it treats music as something functional rather than as art. it rarely questions structures, and it tends to work with a very defined and limited palette of sounds.

the world doesn't need any more hardwells, skrillexes or aviciices.

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Old 24-10-2013, 03:32 AM   #23
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Re: Beginner to percussion

I can see the sound you're trying to get there. You need to put some knocks behind the main synth. Try getting a drum sample, lower the sustain and then tweek the decay until you get a knocking sound. A lot of those electro house drops are nothing more than a subby kick (which you have) and a synth with a percussive element backing it.




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I've taken your advice and have been in the studio last night. I managed to make this drop but I just wanted to know if you would rave to it? I'd love some feedback.

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Re: Beginner to percussion

But after you read my post please re-read his and take it to heart. The drop is not all that its cracked up to be, shit gets old real fucking fast.


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synthwell: please please please do yourself a favor and look up the definition of idm and look at the artists that exemplify the genre.

i don't think this is really the place to rave about drops, hardwell and archetypal edm.
i'm trying to be nice here, but the edm that you seem to worship dumbs down most conversations. it treats music as something functional rather than as art. it rarely questions structures, and it tends to work with a very defined and limited palette of sounds.

the world doesn't need any more hardwells, skrillexes or aviciices.
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Old 24-10-2013, 06:37 PM   #25
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Re: Beginner to percussion

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synthwell: please please please do yourself a favor and look up the definition of idm and look at the artists that exemplify the genre.

i don't think this is really the place to rave about drops, hardwell and archetypal edm.
i'm trying to be nice here, but the edm that you seem to worship dumbs down most conversations. it treats music as something functional rather than as art. it rarely questions structures, and it tends to work with a very defined and limited palette of sounds.

the world doesn't need any more hardwells, skrillexes or aviciices.
^ Truth.

I found that once you get past the point of drops/builds, then you can really start working on true composition. Even if you make music with the intent of getting played out by DJ's you can still make it truly unique, and that starts with eliminating the notion that people want to be forcibly built up. Good music will naturally have the builds and drops; including these artificial ones in a track dumbs down the experience because it assumes that the general audience requires indicators in regards to the structure of the music (like the applause sign in a live audience show. A good show doesn't need to tell people to laugh or clap or sigh or whatever)
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^ Truth.

I found that once you get past the point of drops/builds, then you can really start working on true composition. Even if you make music with the intent of getting played out by DJ's you can still make it truly unique, and that starts with eliminating the notion that people want to be forcibly built up. Good music will naturally have the builds and drops; including these artificial ones in a track dumbs down the experience because it assumes that the general audience requires indicators in regards to the structure of the music (like the applause sign in a live audience show. A good show doesn't need to tell people to laugh or clap or sigh or whatever)
i actually disagree with a lot of what you said there.
every single experimental drone (real drone, not the modulated techno trash you hear all over our listening booth that still gets a "drone" label) lacks a build it, and things like radere's body of work, and pieces like devin maxwell's ph4 are very good countercases to the argument something akin to a pentapartite structure of intro rise build drop exit is inherent to good music, or that even that even the build phase is a requirement.



(look mah, i didn't drop throbbing gristle as an example. i'm a big kid naaaaao.)

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Re: Beginner to percussion

^Yes but there is a clear cut difference in tension and release and build ups and drops.

Nothing wrong with a little tension...

And release.

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