07-02-2006, 11:11 PM
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Regular Freak
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So, I was just curious, how does one go about doing a remix of a song, when all they have is the song off of their cd to work with? And to further complicate matters, the vocal is slathered on top of a part that you may have wanted to preserve?
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07-03-2006, 04:18 AM
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Master of the LFO
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So, I was just curious, how does one go about doing a remix of a song, when all they have is the song off of their cd to work with? And to further complicate matters, the vocal is slathered on top of a part that you may have wanted to preserve?
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Sometimes you just can't, Witness all the 1001 remixes of 'Clocks', by Coldplay - none of them were official, so they all had to roughly match the song structure...when the track was *begging* for some Hybrid-esq FX on the vocal.
However, you can do some creative things to work around that. The Streets bootleg that I did involved chopping individual synth hits out, keeping the kick & snare pattern because I needed the vocal uncut, and doubling the tempo..whereas for the Libra remix I just took the entire breakdown and dropped it in.
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07-03-2006, 12:09 PM
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Master of the LFO
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You do it like you make any bit of music. However you can.
Sometimes "offical" sanctioned remixes will involve being handed a multitack or even more source material to work with, but many things are done with samples from a master, even a cd or bit of vinyl.
There seems to be a lot of standard remix tricks employed again and again. Some of these only work with a multitrack to start from, some (Chopping effects etc) came out of people employing dj tricks to make bootleg from master re mixes seem a bit further from the original.
With parametric eq, filters, and a daw like cubase sx to chop and arrange in its amazing how much you can pick audio apart in every way now.
Surprising people fiddle as little as they do really.
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07-08-2006, 06:32 AM
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Regular Freak
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Thanks for the replies, I'll figure this one out one of these days.
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07-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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It's all go to do with how you go about filtering the loops you have, getting the right balance of the old sounds with the new ones....
What are you trying to remix? Or are you trying to do a bootleg?
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07-18-2006, 05:41 PM
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Regular Freak
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It's not exactly a remix right off the bat........I guess I want to sample some of the drum instrumental parts of various Indian songs, but the vocal is just slathered on top, and to just drop the highs I figure would not work (I've never done any kind of sampling/remixing before).....I guess one could figure out the drum pattern and recreate w/ the rebirth Anokha mod, but I dunno.
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07-24-2006, 05:59 AM
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Knob Twiddler
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to cut vocals, just use an eq... set the q to pretty tight, as you'll only be cutting a very small part of the track out...
move it along the frequency range to just where you need it... which will be somewhere in the middle to middle-high...
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07-28-2006, 10:56 PM
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Minor Glitch
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i guess u could try some phaze inverting to remove the vocal,
but indian songs tend to use a lot of reverb dont thay? so this may not work
but its always worth trying everything,
laters,
TripleSeven.
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10-08-2008, 10:18 AM
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Radial Developer
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Regardless of whether or not your a fan I urge you to go have a look at [ Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register ] at nine inch nails website, they have multi-track files of good quality, of every track of the last 2-3 albums available for d'load... Good fun =)
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10-09-2008, 10:42 PM
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Ghostly
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You wont be able to take something out of a mix with satisfying results.
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10-11-2008, 09:04 AM
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Analog Lurker
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i had wave editor 'goldwave' that had a remove vocal function. some times it worked sometimes it didnt and other times it just blanket out the whole track except for like one perfectly preserved gtr lick. or rad vocal snap.
depends on how the track was original mastered.
when i used to do cheap mixes i would always start with the remove vocal function and see what parts i could snaffle.
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10-11-2008, 08:26 PM
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Non-Stop Party Now
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The easiest way to get those drum parts might actually be to just reproduce them. Get some appropriate drum samples, either by cutting a few exposed ones out of the track itself or getting them from elsewhere, and then sequence them in your DAW into the desired rhythms.
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10-17-2008, 05:25 AM
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Radial Developer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nhomas
The easiest way to get those drum parts might actually be to just reproduce them. Get some appropriate drum samples, either by cutting a few exposed ones out of the track itself or getting them from elsewhere, and then sequence them in your DAW into the desired rhythms.
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Yah, thats the ticket!! find a drummer *coughs*... as crude said, you probably won't be able to lift anything with very satisfying results.
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