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Old 02-08-2017, 04:42 PM   #41
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EBM flavored Techno at the moment.

scrapped it. good to know when to quit.


attempt #2 today. Going to hit the FM synths hard.

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Old 02-08-2017, 04:52 PM   #42
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Old 02-08-2017, 05:24 PM   #43
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yeah me too. hence the FM synth stuff!


this tune is already starting to sound very "Monochase"


old stuff in the link (from my 2006 release) but this sort of vibe, is developing... only far better mixing

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Old 02-08-2017, 05:58 PM   #44
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Thanks Auto!clears it up a bit.although the one i am working on is good,ima keep it for something else.
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scrapped it. good to know when to quit.


attempt #2 today. Going to hit the FM synths hard.
I've ditched so many ideas in the last 2 nights. This one is not coming natural.
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I've ditched so many ideas in the last 2 nights. This one is not coming natural.
Ditto..this is like starting to learn how to produce all over again..nearly. If what I've got already is anything to go by, then this lad here won't be submitting a fecking thing. That said, there's plenty of time to try and up my game for this..here's hoping.

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Ditto..this is like starting to learn how to produce all over again..nearly. If what I've got already is anything to go by, then this lad here won't be submitting a fecking thing. That said, there's plenty of time to try and up my game for this..here's hoping.
Just put a kick on the 1 2 3 and 4, 8th note hats, then do some dark ambient stuff in the background. That should give you a solid base to start. Not trying to oversimplify it. You can actually pretty much forget about melody and harmony if you like. Lots of dark techno has neither of those. Much of it is more or less atonal.

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Old 02-08-2017, 06:15 PM   #48
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

I do something. Find one thing in it I like. Ditch the rest, keep that, expand on it. Gradually it progresses.

Sometimes I do stuff and it just flows. This is not my natural environment and is taking a bit of work. But then thats the whole point I guess. When its finished I'll decide if I like it enough to submit. If not I'll drop it into the LB for people to point and laugh at

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Old 02-08-2017, 06:38 PM   #49
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

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Just put a kick on the 1 2 3 and 4, 8th note hats, then do some dark ambient stuff in the background. That should give you a solid base to start. Not trying to oversimplify it. You can actually pretty much forget about melody and harmony if you like. Lots of dark techno has neither of those. Much of it is more or less atonal.

Cheers, A, for the encouragement..you make it sound easy. I think that's the problem for me, not really knowing where to start on something like this. I mean, I used to listen to techno a lot in the past and you'd think that might give you an edge at producing it, but it's the same as learning to produce in any other genre starting out..there's basic mixing skills..but then there's the real nitty-gritty stuff, like how you structure the track and what sounds to use..all planning, I know..but where to really start?

You're words really have kicked my spirits up a little on this..going to jump right back in later tonight and see where it takes me.

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Old 02-08-2017, 06:41 PM   #50
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I do something. Find one thing in it I like. Ditch the rest, keep that, expand on it. Gradually it progresses.

Sometimes I do stuff and it just flows. This is not my natural environment and is taking a bit of work. But then thats the whole point I guess. When its finished I'll decide if I like it enough to submit. If not I'll drop it into the LB for people to point and laugh at
Thanks, Roo..not sure if what you posted was in response to my post..or if you were just saying your piece..but it also helped me get a little "rejuvenated" about this and stoked to give it another try.

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Old 02-08-2017, 07:00 PM   #51
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

well, a couple of hours in on this tune this morning. Every element in this tune has been created/generated by Ableton's Operator synth. Fun stuff. If all goes well everything in this tune will remain created with Operator, I see no reason why it shouldn't.

Using Ableton's native Synths and FX are great as automating everything is super straightforward... oh and Max4Live for some parameter randomization and LFO's.

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Old 03-08-2017, 01:26 AM   #52
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

I threw one away too. Was using really dirty samples, but I found that didn't leave me much room to mix, plus the ryhthm was off. So I started fresh, just doing drums for now. Think I'll make a dirty delay send and try to have most of the song be made by sending various drums and mixtures of drums into that (or maybe those, plural!). Then maybe a bass arp for some nice grimy inconsistent sub.

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Old 03-08-2017, 04:21 AM   #53
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

I've got a 144 patch FMish drum library loaded up on the A4 for this...prepare for some mad rhythms.

EDIT: got myself started.

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Old 03-08-2017, 07:42 PM   #54
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

10 instances of Ableton's Operator FM synth.

Thats my tune. No other synths used, although I did re-sample a lot of things to manipulate in the audio realm.

I wanted to wrap this up before next Wed, as I am leaving for EU for work and if I lose momentum I'll never finish this up. Not a bad tune for a couple of days.


:edit: aaaaand, thats a wrap. where do i send this crap?

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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

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10 instances of Ableton's Operator FM synth.

Thats my tune. No other synths used, although I did re-sample a lot of things to manipulate in the audio realm.

I wanted to wrap this up before next Wed, as I am leaving for EU for work and if I lose momentum I'll never finish this up. Not a bad tune for a couple of days.


:edit: aaaaand, thats a wrap. where do i send this crap?
man......jelly i am jelly....no surprise really you fart tracks in your sleep.
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man......jelly i am jelly....no surprise really you fart tracks in your sleep.
Nah, man I just had two 8 hour "work days" to focus on this.

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i was kidding.

I just need to put 27 eq's and a million limiters on the master before I send it in.

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i was kidding.

I just need to put 27 eq's and a million limiters on the master before I send it in.
A nice long reverb on the master adds a nice dark vibe too. Plus limit that again. Maybe some soundgoodgoodgoodizer!
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

well i finally read the rules.

instead of having all those limiters on the master im just going to sausage fatten every channel.

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