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Old 17-01-2014, 01:22 AM   #41
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Re: Good headphones?

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sennheiser HD-25 II
i own a pair of hd 280 pro and hd 25s, the 25 have crystal clear treble and mids, but the bass is lacking. the 280 are sealed and heavy but the bass is mild and the highs are a bit flat - makes them quite nice for prolonged sessions. i would do final checks on the 25 but wouldn't mix with them.

oh and that thing about bass mixing and headphones.. no pair of headphones beats a treated room. bass waves need space to stretch.

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Old 17-01-2014, 01:57 AM   #42
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i own a pair of hd 280 pro and hd 25s, the 25 have crystal clear treble and mids, but the bass is lacking. the 280 are sealed and heavy but the bass is mild and the highs are a bit flat - makes them quite nice for prolonged sessions. i would do final checks on the 25 but wouldn't mix with them.

oh and that thing about bass mixing and headphones.. no pair of headphones beats a treated well designed room. bass waves need space to stretch.
Fixed.

If you want to stretch out the legs of your bass, you're going to need a very long room as open E's wavelength is 27 feet.


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Old 17-01-2014, 02:07 AM   #43
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How do we let ourselves get so drawn in to these lazy questions? We just need to have a sticky that advises all to buy the most expensive pair of Dre Beats they can afford.
I don't know if I would call it lazy. Most people don't stick around long term to know how often these questions are asked. They find this forum and think- good place to ask this question and start a thread or two. Also sometimes it can feel overwhelming to sort through a 30 page thread that is filled with about 20 percent advice and 80 percent jibber jabber.
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Old 17-01-2014, 02:12 AM   #44
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Re: Good headphones?

Imagine joining a car enthusiast forum and your first impression being asking the question - so what's a good sedan? Define good. Like cars, studio equipment choice is personal and it wouldn't be strange to expect someone to do a bit of research before asking a group - what should I get.
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Old 17-01-2014, 02:12 AM   #45
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Re: Good headphones?

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Fixed.

If you want to stretch out the legs of your bass, you're going to need a very long room as open E's wavelength is 27 feet.

True. But it still has more room to "stretch it's legs" in a room than in a set of cans.

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Haha at this point I'm arguing for the sake of arguing... doesn't really matter what you mix your bass on... as long as you can you mix your bass well.

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Old 17-01-2014, 02:25 AM   #46
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Re: Good headphones?

Yeah, same, as always. People talk about treated rooms like it is easy to do, just put some absorbers and diffusers on the walls. It is next to near impossible to effectively absorb low freqs - resulting in nodes in even well designed and treated rooms.

This issue is very topical to me, because I'm just getting to the point where I have to admit how bad my monitoring is, and actually how good my Dt-770's are at portraying bass. It is in no way pleasurable in the Dt's, in fact, it is almost more like a sub frequency analyzer with input from your ears, than a listening experience. But like you said, anyways.

Also of note, I just found a really big bass node a couple of feet behind my listening position. It is insane, it is like I got my sub back. So jokes. Now I just need three foot long robotic arm extenders to work the keyboard and mouse, and I'll be good.

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Old 17-01-2014, 02:31 AM   #47
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Re: Good headphones?

Make that boundary effect work for you right?

Also the joy of sweet notes and dead notes from half waves and quarter waves and all that fun stuff.

My room is so non-treated and peaky. Loud and quiet spots galore. I just have it adjusted to not be completely terrible where I sit.
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Old 17-01-2014, 02:35 AM   #48
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Re: Good headphones?

I feel your pain on those bass nodes... I'm away at school and my dorm room is awful (can't really expect it to be good). It's seriously amazing how you can go from one point in the room where there is complete absence of sub frequency material to stepping a foot forward and being blasted with nothing but bass.

And you're right about the room design aspect of it all. It takes a lot of money to get a room to have a solid low frequency response (AND for it to be consistent throughout). I visited a professionally modeled studio a while back and it was incredible how tight the low freq. response was in that control room. Then again, it probably cost upwards of $30k to get the room where it is now (not to mention the control room was built FOR the purpose of monitoring audio whereas most of us are just trying to make due with the rooms we have available to us).

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Re: Good headphones?

Loving my Audio Technica ATH-M50s! Got 'em off of eBay for 115 shipped!
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Old 17-01-2014, 05:22 AM   #50
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^^^ Awesome, I'm glad you like them!
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Old 17-01-2014, 05:34 AM   #51
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Re: Good headphones?

As everyone has said there are a lot of good headphones out there, for cans what I'd recommend and only because I've used them are.
AKG - K512's and the pricier Audio Technica ATH-M50's although really it's down to personal preference and what YOU like.
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Re: Good headphones?

Me and the bear are happy with Beyerdynamic DT 770


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Old 21-01-2014, 07:04 AM   #53
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Re: Good headphones?

Used to have the sennheiser hd280, which definitely lack bass. Then got the ath m50, and although I liked them, didn't find them flat enough. I am now enjoying my sennheiser hd380! The best I found for a reasonable price (and I looked around a lot, trying pretty much all the alternatives).
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Re: Good headphones?

Although I'm personally a big advocate for Senheiser Open Back Headphones (where music production is concerned), note that Zomboy used Beat Pros for most of his productions. So that kind of brings everything back to the idea of preference. Personally, I'd say focus on headphones with the widest frequency ranges, then from there narrow it down to whether you want a really flat or colored sound, and lastly a closed or open back (opens tend to give a more realistic listening experience, and are decently less harsh on your ears when it comes to ear fatigue). Where headphone monitoring is concerned, I use my Pioneer HDJ-1000s (but I have used Sennheisers before as well) and for the most part they do the job pretty well. But with whatever you decide to choose, just be sure to really break them in and understand what areas they excel in/ lack in (deeper bass, clearer mids/highs, etc.)
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Re: Good headphones?

I have owned about 5 pairs of phones in the past and have been happy with most of them, however, my old sennheiser HD200's have been the most robust.

I have been using the AKG range recently and have found that whilst my previous K240 MKII's were very good on the bass side of things, my newly purchased K271's are not.

I was a little disapointed when i got them out the box to find they lack massively on the low end. I have tried using them for various tracks but creating any bass heavy music on them is hard work.

I have now reverted back to the HD200's until i get myself some other phones with a good sounding low end.

What would everyone recommend as a good set for low end creativity...for under 150...?

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Re: Good headphones?

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I have owned about 5 pairs of phones in the past and have been happy with most of them, however, my old sennheiser HD200's have been the most robust.

I have been using the AKG range recently and have found that whilst my previous K240 MKII's were very good on the bass side of things, my newly purchased K271's are not.

I was a little disapointed when i got them out the box to find they lack massively on the low end. I have tried using them for various tracks but creating any bass heavy music on them is hard work.

I have now reverted back to the HD200's until i get myself some other phones with a good sounding low end.

What would everyone recommend as a good set for low end creativity...for under 150...?
Bought em in dollars, but should be able to get Beyerdynamic DT 770's for that price. Has a very accurate low end. I jump into these just to check the low end.

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Re: Good headphones?

Agree with DT 770's if you like your bass! Very comfortable, too.
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Agree with DT 770's if you like your bass! Very comfortable, too.
Another 770 fan here too

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Re: Good headphones?

I tend to work for long stretches. I know I'm supposed to rest my ears (and the rest of my body for that matter) but fuck that, after 20 years, it doesn't happen. These headphones can fatigue your ears because they do pump out the bass right into your ear. They won't fry them with high end though, which is nice. But that mechanical pressure, can be a bit heavy. Also, I find them to be sweaty. Like the plush pads are kind of hot/sweaty. Just my experience though.

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Re: Good headphones?

Check out the Sennheiser HD280s. Flat response, strong frequency range, and under $100.

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