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Old 24-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #41
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Having listened to the already-released beat tapes, I have to disagree entirely about the quality issue. I definitely think the hip hop one was one of the better recent IDMf albums.

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Old 25-01-2013, 04:30 AM   #44
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I agree. I would have to put that release at the top for 2012 west coast flavor. Bass. Anthropology was really well constructed as well.

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Old 25-01-2013, 05:46 AM   #45
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Re: The IDMf Beat Tapes are done

Having heard 003, obviously, I can say it's full of awesome as well. You'll all hear for yourselves when it comes out.

When's that?

Soon I hope.

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Old 25-01-2013, 12:31 PM   #46
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No way!!! I honestly found out about this as I was finding out the details for the ambient tape!!! lol - I had my USB stick in my hand with the file on it ready to load.

Now I've got to decide if I want to enter it into the open genre or another track I was thinking of for that!!!! Decisions.....

Seriously tho, thanks to all those involved for making it happen at all. I've done something similar when I had a radio show. It was only two hours on a Sunday night but trawling thru demo tunes you had been sent, along with the weeks commercial stuff took an incredible amount of my free time up and forced me to quit eventually after a couple of years.

Anyway, its too easy to bitch about stuff these days and I'm happier that it happened and failed rather than it never happening at all. The main label is still there (isn't it??) so its not like the site will no longer release.

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Having heard 003, obviously, I can say it's full of awesome as well. You'll all hear for yourselves when it comes out.

When's that?

Soon I hope.
I found a few seconds of shots for the video and it looks kick ass to be honest. Sex to my eyes.

Can't wait for the video and the music from 003.

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Old 25-01-2013, 03:37 PM   #48
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I feel like the main problem with the beat tapes and the beat battle is that everyone got really discouraged when they didn't set the world on fire in a short period of time. The beat battle lasted maybe half a year, and this was probably a little shorter. I feel like if something is going to stick, it needs to be with a slow enough production pace that the project doesn't become the only thing you have time for when you produce, and it needs to be done with a group of people who are fully aware that the outside world isn't going to show much interest for the first year or two or maybe ever.

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I feel like the main problem with the beat tapes and the beat battle is that everyone got really discouraged when they didn't set the world on fire in a short period of time. The beat battle lasted maybe half a year, and this was probably a little shorter. I feel like if something is going to stick, it needs to be with a slow enough production pace that the project doesn't become the only thing you have time for when you produce, and it needs to be done with a group of people who are fully aware that the outside world isn't going to show much interest for the first year or two or maybe ever.

My 2 cents.
Couldn't agree more. I feel like a lot of the label's recent projects have been incredibly awesome and ambitious, ideas I would fully support and be a part of, if given enough time. Instead, what happens is that the projects don't get many submissions because the time restraints usually are a bit short, and a lot of us don't have as much time as we used to for music production. I know I don't. College classes, homework, and trying to find a job are taking up 90% of my day, and honestly the only time I get any production done is between classes on my laptop, and that's when I've already finished my homework etc.

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Re: The IDMf Beat Tapes are done

^It's hard to strike a balance though, if you don't keep things moving they have an equal tendency to die out.

That being said, I do agree...I only *shame face* submitted to one beat tape, and was going to submit to a second (Ambient Soundscape). Time of course being the primary factor.

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idmf needs the news ticker thing like in simcity or 1990s websites

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idmf needs the news ticker thing like in simcity or 1990s websites
I quite miss those, actually.

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Re: The IDMf Beat Tapes are done

There's no reason, by the way, that we can't do an ambient compilation release anyway.

There's no plans for one at the moment but it's entirely within reason.

Ultimately all this means is that anything that might have been a beat-tape would now be pitched as a normal label release.

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Old 25-01-2013, 06:47 PM   #54
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There's no reason, by the way, that we can't do an ambient compilation release anyway.

There's no plans for one at the moment but it's entirely within reason.

Ultimately all this means is that anything that might have been a beat-tape would now be pitched as a normal label release.

Not to mention people could get together and do stuff on their own independent from IDMf. Personally, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I love the netlabel releases and all the IDMf projects. This is hands down the best music community I'm aware of.

But I don't see why a group of people couldn't give something a go on their own. Someday you'll have to cut the umbilical cord people.



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Re: The IDMf Beat Tapes are done

it always goes south right around the time someone mentions breakcore..

this is like the 3rd or 4th time with that

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Old 25-01-2013, 06:52 PM   #56
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Not to mention people could get together and do stuff on their own independent from IDMf. Personally, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I love the netlabel releases and all the IDMf projects. This is hands down the best music community I'm aware of.

But I don't see why a group of people couldn't give something a go on their own. Someday you'll have to cut the umbilical cord people.


While I'm not talking about the separation from IDMf, this is absolutely true. This is how the Barely Legal compilation came into being. Kryptolith and I bounced around the idea of a compilation of underage musicians, and decided to do it. Basically: If you REALLY want something to be released BADLY, fucking GO FOR IT!

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Re: The IDMf Beat Tapes are done

Very sad to see these go

I guess the lack of listeners becomes a vicious cycle - the less people that listen the less the effort people will go to to submit a track in time....repeat that over a few tapes and it turns into an issue about quality.

It might just be me but I don't think a forum is the best place to release and promote things like this - at least if it is the only method used. I've always thought idmf could do with a separate home page that isn't a forum and rather is a blog-type thing with IDMf releases, contests etc updated, 'threads of the month'....you get the idea.

If that was the homepage of the site it'd a) make it more difficult for members to ignore/miss new releases and b) give people new to the site a better idea of the community here and perhaps encourage them to contribute more often (something I need to do much more of myself admittedly)

I've missed many of these releases in the past simply because I don't have enough time for music production so digging through forums to find out if something new is out/open for submissions can take a long time if I've been away for a month or so.

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Old 27-01-2013, 12:24 AM   #58
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Couldn't agree more. I feel like a lot of the label's recent projects have been incredibly awesome and ambitious, ideas I would fully support and be a part of, if given enough time. Instead, what happens is that the projects don't get many submissions because the time restraints usually are a bit short, and a lot of us don't have as much time as we used to for music production. I know I don't. College classes, homework, and trying to find a job are taking up 90% of my day, and honestly the only time I get any production done is between classes on my laptop, and that's when I've already finished my homework etc.
Two months to submit for the change the noise, another two months of submission period for the open genre comp. at that rate plus promo it would be only 3 or 4 releases a year. If that isn't enough time then go figure. People need to also realise that the guys behind these projects have lives outside of here too that are full of life shit to do. Shit I'm working 12-14 hour days at the moment and still fitting all this in too.
As for the beat tapes not getting much submissions in reality they were only generally known amongst a few on the forum here itself, the promo for them was nearly non existent except between those Few who already knew about them, what good is it promoing to those people? None. As soon as bt001 was done this project died on its arse. That's the simple truth of it. Harsh sounding maybe, but I could be a lot more harsh and still be speaking the truth.
IMO at least kong gave it a go and was proactive in trying to give this forum something different and something new, and that is what I personally respect the most out of anything anywhere. Someone who is at least willing to try regardless of their personal constraints.
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Old 27-01-2013, 12:45 AM   #59
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Re: The IDMf Beat Tapes are done

When we talk about participation are we talking about submissions or downloads?

I cant speak for any of the other leaders but I promoted the hell out of 003 vIa pm and wound up with 19 submissions, just as many as idmf 036 if I recall the number you said you received correctly.

003 downloads are yet to be determined, obviously, so I am unable to comment on that st this time.

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Both downloads and submissions. And good on you for being so proactive There were only 6 or 7 subs for the last beat tapes if I remember correctly. So far neither the first or second have had more than 50 downloads each and a normal netlabel release tends to be at least that in the first day. When I talk about promo I Mean the promo of the releases and the beat tapes in general btw

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