I began as a DJ before making music and the way i make tracks now is using the majority of samples. I don't really have any musical knowledge at all and don't even use a midi keyboard when producing! I just pick samples that i feel go together and work on that.
Below is my recent track and someone has told me that the vocals are out key with the piano and that i need to work on my music theory a bit, would you agree? And where would i need to start in terms of tuning samples etc?
Thanks!
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I always mess the samples up a little bit, either pitch them up or down little, chop them up etc...but there is no set logic, i just do it by ear...and yes i do mainly work with samples and mainly in audio!
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Re: Using samples in the right key?
Not able to listen to the track at the moment.
But you should know what key you are working in, and follow a certain scale.
If not things will just sounds out of key, which most of the time is not pleasant.
In my limited experience with sampling, its a bad idea to pitch entire chords or melodies up or down.
Although it should work in theory, there's a lot more going on sonically in sampled chords than just 3 notes that will conveniently move up or down the exact number of semitones that you tune the chord. You often end up with something sounding unnatural or nasty artifacts.
Take for example, a flute sound. You have a long, sustained, lower register C. But a flutist knows that the way you shape your mouth, breathe into the flute, etc for a low C is different from how you play a high C. So even if you have the note, tuning it up 2 octaves will not make it sound like a real flute playing a high C, because the flutist is doing something slightly different to play that high C than the low C. These are characteristics of acoustic instruments that you just can't imitate very easily using a computer or a sampled instrument.
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Re: Using samples in the right key?
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Originally Posted by statisticquill
In my limited experience with sampling, its a bad idea to pitch entire chords or melodies up or down.
Although it should work in theory, there's a lot more going on sonically in sampled chords than just 3 notes that will conveniently move up or down the exact number of semitones that you tune the chord. You often end up with something sounding unnatural or nasty artifacts.
Take for example, a flute sound. You have a long, sustained, lower register C. But a flutist knows that the way you shape your mouth, breathe into the flute, etc for a low C is different from how you play a high C. So even if you have the note, tuning it up 2 octaves will not make it sound like a real flute playing a high C, because the flutist is doing something slightly different to play that high C than the low C. These are characteristics of acoustic instruments that you just can't imitate very easily using a computer or a sampled instrument.
This is where the differences between acoustic insturments and synths come in. A pitched synth is merely a mathimatical difference in the frequency spectrum.
Below is my recent track and someone has told me that the vocals are out key with the piano and that i need to work on my music theory a bit, would you agree?
Yes it's out of tune, the vocal doesn't fit with the piano and yes learning music theory would help you a lot for those things...
Basic music theory is simple, get a book and dedicate to it. For vocals, if you can play the notes back in piano roll you may get a better perspective to how the notes sound!
You can't 'tune' a tonal sample. Just doesn't work. 261hz played faster gets you a pitched C, not a g5. Maybe try a granulizer or resynthesis vst. Do you tune your drums?
You can't 'tune' a tonal sample. Just doesn't work. 261hz played faster gets you a pitched C, not a g5. Maybe try a granulizer or resynthesis vst. Do you tune your drums?
You can't 'tune' a tonal sample. Just doesn't work. 261hz played faster gets you a pitched C, not a g5. Maybe try a granulizer or resynthesis vst. Do you tune your drums?
If you have Melodyne you could pretty much do whatever you want to melodic samples, including transposing the key.
Lmao. Yes this.
I tune or pitch my drums in cents, not steps. I do not use a sample of a violin playing a F4 transposed to C5. Doesn't work. Always sounds like a sample played faster, not a note. This is why vst's are around, no?
Personally, I use Waves pitch correction to figure out the melody/key of a monophonic melody/vocal sample. I'll use melodyne for any polyphoic samples for harmonies. Check out octavian the Ipod app for figuring out the key and scale you would like to use. Once you have figured out the key of the sample/vocal you can figure how many semitones to pitch it up or down.
