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Old 14-11-2012, 06:14 AM   #21
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I've got a Sid Station so I'm all in on the 8 bit.

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i figured the response would be positive for the 8bit one and i'm rather happy for that. we'll have a proper DnB/Jungle/Breaks one too cuz that one sound crucial.

fimpy, why don't you post up a few examples of what juke is for people to get a feel for it?

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imo there should be a beat tape dedicated to the primordial electronic music genre egg that is "techno"

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imo there should be a beat tape dedicated to the primordial electronic music genre egg that is "techno"
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Old 14-11-2012, 06:31 AM   #25
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imo there should be a beat tape dedicated to the primordial electronic music genre egg that is "techno"
Like Richie Hawtin style?

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Old 14-11-2012, 06:39 AM   #26
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Old 14-11-2012, 07:06 AM   #27
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Yeah that would be sweet also but when you said egg of electronic music, or whatever it was, that made me think of old school Hawtin / plastikman.

But that other stuff right there works too.

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Old 14-11-2012, 08:28 AM   #28
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I'd would be great to have an 8-Bit open genre comp!
And I agree with the fact the Jungle/DNB/Breaks is kind of a "obligation" in these beat tapes

And yea, what kind of style is this juke/footwork genre ?
I've always heard of it but never really listened to any...

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8-bit would be really fun

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Also, not doing Techno seems like blasphemy
How about a dub-techno tape?
it's one of the genres i wanted to try since i heard trentemoller's nightwalker track...but i'm not sure how popular it is
...it's so 2008 lol
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Re: [*BIG UPDATE INSIDE*] IDMf Beat Tapes [General Info, Discussions and News Updates

ETF, Glad you asked

Essentially the themes that this music tries to keep consistent are:
- Extensive use of 808s/909s
- Highly repetitive vocal samples - usually of 80's/90's hip hop acapellas
- Amen breaks
- Little to no structure - pretty much 2/3 mins of flat out 808 mayhem (aside from all the slightly more artistic takes on the genre that have started to develop since late last decade)
- BIG ONE HERE: No basslines per say, instead long, rung out ultra bassy fill-the-room type kicks are used to give the tracks increidble low end presence. Youtube does not do the following tracks justice in this respect
- Abrasive and somewhat 'annoying' synth leads
- reliance on pitch-shifting of samples for main hooks instead of synthmanship









and then there's the more traditional stuff






While that stuff is cool, I tend to gravitate towards the more creative contemporary stuff which is basically the same genre except slightly closer to dubstep with better production and more interesting production choices/broader pallet of sounds/generally more chilled out. I'm talking about tracks such as those first four links, as well as the following

btw it starts to step on UK Garage's toes a bit here:










Artists to check out:
- Ramadanman/Pearson Sound
- Digital Soundboy
- Africa Hitech
- Machinedrum/Sepalcure
- DJ Spinn
- DJ Rashad
- Traxman
- recent Lone
- Dusk & Blackdown
- some MJ Cole
- some Joy Orbison
- some Appleblim
- Seiji
- Pangaea
- Skanky
- Deebs

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Records/Mixtapes etc to check out:
- Bangs and Works Vol.1 (Planet Mu)
- Fabriclives 56, 61 and 63 (Fabric)
- Traxman- Da Mind of Traxman (Planet Mu)
^just found out about this in another thread. great record


Anyway all of the above is entirely my opinion and my view on the genre and a lot of the stuff I posted only has 'connections' to juke/footwork but I wouldn't call the songs themselves juke/footwork. Just giving the bigger picture. Also some idmf members that I've seen take an interest in this stuff are lolirl and possibly sencesor - they will probably know more about this than me

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A(n extremely shitty) Juke track I made for the IDMf beat tapes, back in the good ol' days.

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Old 14-11-2012, 12:59 PM   #31
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dude you should copy paste that to a new thread in general music, great post!
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:57 PM   #32
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Re: [*BIG UPDATE INSIDE*] IDMf Beat Tapes [General Info, Discussions and News Updates

Wow. A lot of new ideas here. So to sum up from what's been posted.

1. Fuck yea DnB/Jungle/Breaks

2. When I said Techno I meant that old, old school stuff like Detroit Techno and it's children. So, yea, probably more like old school Hawtin stuff. Also, I think it'd be fair to allow Dub Techno...I've been wanting to get into that myself, production wise.

3. Juke/Footwork is so interesting and fimpson pretty munch nailed it. You should also youtube it...there is a whole dance culture surrounding the music in Chicago and Detroit. In fact, I'm pretty sure Footwork is the kind of dancing people do to the music and Juke is the music. It's really a sound that only existed in a small part of the mid west US until recently, when as fimpson said, the Dubstep/Garage cats picked up on it. The drum programming on it is bizarre and challenging. The kicks don't even have a very steady pattern to them.

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1.field recording beat tape-open genre

2.orchestral/electronic tape - basically we sample jazz and classical instruments and make anything with it

3.techno- I say we go general and include hardcore, minimal, dub, jazz, acid, the kind of techno triton makes , basically every example in this thread
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4.noise beat tape - an option

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Old 14-11-2012, 04:45 PM   #34
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Old 14-11-2012, 08:12 PM   #35
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^I actualy don't really have one, per say, but it's made by Elektron and the Monomachine had a Sid emulator as one of it's synths so I kind of have one.

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there is a whole dance culture surrounding the music in Chicago and Detroit. In fact, I'm pretty sure Footwork is the kind of dancing people do to the music and Juke is the music. It's really a sound that only existed in a small part of the mid west US until recently, when as fimpson said, the Dubstep/Garage cats picked up on it. The drum programming on it is bizarre and challenging. The kicks don't even have a very steady pattern to them.
Oh yeah I think I forgot to mention Footwork is the style of dance that is danced to Juke. glad you're interested in it as well relic!

also I'm not sure but I might have forgot to mention that a drum and bass tape would be fucktastic. Really liking Marcus Intalex's breed of dnb at the moment

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^I actualy don't really have one, per say, but it's made by Elektron and the Monomachine had a Sid emulator as one of it's synths so I kind of have one.
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I'd be interested in us putting out a Chillout tape at some point, as it's more my style.
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^I like the sound of a 'chillout' tape but tbh I have no idea what it means. I think people have been throwing around phrases like "ambient" tape and whatnot without thinking about it... seriously, what the hell is an ambient beat tape?

I kind of had the idea that it was downtemp/lounge/trip-hop even?

I was thinking stuff like:




amirite? or amiwrong?

edit: if so it would be a cool beat tape, but it would have to have long track times etc as this genre of music relies on slow progression etc

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holy fuck yes to the groove armada song.. god I used to love that track. I'll post up some examples of lounge/chillout when I'm at a computer.

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