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Old 11-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #21
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

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Old 11-11-2012, 10:36 AM   #22
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

For me the pleasure of making music comes from the fact that people who listen to it like it. I wouldn't make music I don't personally like, but if I was the only one who liked that song then I wouldn't enjoy it. Music's all about sharing it with others. For example, if I make a song I like a lot and then play it to a couple of my friends who don't like it, then I'm not happy. As good as the thought of not thinking about what everyone else thinks sounds, for me it wouldn't be enjoyable.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:04 AM   #23
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

That's good advice. When I make music, it's like medicine for my emotions, helps me get through things by expressing myself, both positive and negative.

So I really try to make music for myself... But at the same time if my music could move people in the way that my favorite artists have moved me, and helped me through hard times, I feel like that would be the greatest compliment I could ever hear from someone.

Making music for yourself is awesome, but I feel like it should also be there for people to relate to on an emotional level. That's how you influence people who have gone through similar situations or feelings, and I think that's important because you could influence them for the better.
Just don't only write for the sake of gaining everyone's approval.

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:31 AM   #24
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

Hmm... Yeah, I could make music all day but if no one enjoys it, it wouldn't be as rewarding as if they did. Say I spend weeks on a track and I end up being a bit proud of it.. if no one likes it, then it kinda takes some of the fun out of it. I suppose I am one to like recognition for my efforts.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #25
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

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Well i do not only make edm but i also play gutiar a sing a compose things in that format.
Sometimes i find myself with fear of using weird chords such as diminished because i start to think people wont like them.
And that people, as she said to me, is to

1) Make music not for the pleasure of doing it, but for the compliments you may get (which is totally losing the point of artistic creation)

2) understimating te audience! Although like half of the teens nowadays want to be like pauly d and would
not like the song if it had another progression rather than C G Am F (or it's transpositions); the other half of the population still likes good music and is not afraid to hear some new harmonies or odd time signatures.

So that's the advice; make music without thinking if people are gonna like it and alter it for that.
hear here!

that's kinda always been how i make music. it's a terrible mistake to start to identify too strongly with not just your creative process, not just your creations, but the reaction and response from audiences. tsk tsk. indeed, that kind of ego wank will end up you and your music disapearing up your own arse.

it's like in the ten dimensional maze book, that andromeda bettelnut bar thing, that's the best snackbar in the world, but you cannot get it if you want it. if you're not thinking about it, sure, then it will likely show up effortlessly. or like being cool. you cant be cool by trying to be cool. ;D or zen. it's the act of not doing. ..er.... idk if i'm starting to veer farther away from it with that. point is, if you're wasting all your thought and energy on the knock on results of the outcomes of your endeavors, they will remain joyless endeavors, and that joylessness will almost certainly start to be reflected in the work.

we're fragile, maliable, emotional beings. we are a tool to be taken care off just like any other in our kit. keeping that balance and not storming off like a diva is only part of it, albeit a rather grosse part. there's subtle but significant differences from the differing motivations.

i say this of all things really (especially to friends grumbling about work), but i think it most befitting of artwork & music:

"do it with joy, or not at all".



i am in total agreement with 1.

and 2, i am also in very enthusiastic emphatic agreement. RAISE THE FRIKN BAR! "does life imitate art, or does art imitate life?"... that was the question thrown around for ages, as if no one had the gumption to proclaim "YES! BOTH!", ~ let alone to point out the transcendent creative spark ~ so much ignorance to the feedback loop that's created... like a boards of canada track was named: "everything you do is a baloon". i say, always leave a little of the bar out of reach... always put something on the higher shelves, try to make it so there's an endless curiosity-provokation with some mystery left at the end of every density or complexity the audience works through. of course, not all art need be doing this, but just so long as, like was said, they're not being fed a spoonful of brainrot.

love it.

thnx Mineral Sounds

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Old 11-23-2012, 04:05 PM   #26
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

I did a composition course at university and almost had the opposite problem of being encouraged to use weird chords and new techniques. Although I see the point of learning about atonal music and other strange things, I didn't feel the music I was writing at the time was coming from me personally and I wasn't that excited by it. I like to think now I can incorporate that into the electronic music I write now but blend it with my own ideas. My point is everyone's just gotta find what they like and enthuses them, if others happen to like it to, it's a bonus.

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Old 11-30-2012, 02:39 PM   #27
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

“Care about people’s approval and you will be their prisoner.” - Tao Te Ching
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:20 AM   #28
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''USE THE MINDDDDD !!!!'' ---Kevin Austin

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Old 12-03-2012, 08:44 PM   #29
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

I'm not sure I've ever used the audience as a factor in deciding how I'll arrange chords. I'm not sure that I have any process for choosing them, now that I think about it...I think that I start with two chords, and build it into a four chord progression (most often), but not with any listeners in mind.

Maybe when I'm stuck with no idea for a progression, I'll use your method, thanks.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:47 PM   #30
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

Porter Robinson stressed on this kind of advice as well.

"Dont pander" and fans will always be there when done well.

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:04 PM   #31
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

I heard him say this in an interview as well! Great advice for sure!
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:57 AM   #32
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Re: A wise advice a teacher once gave me

A great quote from a great rock climber regarding extreme levels of difficult climbing...
"The best climber is the one having the most fun" ~ Peter Croft

bottom line .. have fun!

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