[MineralSounds]

Well i do not only make edm but i also play gutiar a sing a compose things in that format.
Sometimes i find myself with fear of using weird chords such as diminished because i start to think people wont like them.
And that people, as she said to me, is to

1) Make music not for the pleasure of doing it, but for the compliments you may get (which is totally losing the point of artistic creation)

2) understimating te audience! Although like half of the teens nowadays want to be like pauly d and would
not like the song if it had another progression rather than C G Am F (or it's transpositions); the other half of the population still likes good music and is not afraid to hear some new harmonies or odd time signatures.

So that's the advice; make music without thinking if people are gonna like it and alter it for that.

[Artifiseer]

Exactly! Worrying about how your audience will perceive your music does hold you back. If a certain chord progression sounds good to you, then use it, even if it's more dissonant than what people are used to. As long as it's not atonal, people probably won't be bothered by it. Hell, even atonality can sound good, when used smartly.

[Adam Gower]

I agree with the above, but to quote Wynton Marsalis as well, "Don't worry about what others say about your music. Pursue whatever you are hearing... but if everybody really hates your music maybe you could try some different approaches."

[Numerical]

I just try not to have some big money-oriented grand scheme, I love making tunes and shouldn't have to have an audience come to mind when I write something. Alot of kids think this is easy money, and maybe it is for some social whores who spam the fuck out of the internet LISTN TO MAH SONGZ!!! FEEDBAKZ NAOW!!!

I just get sick of the "industry" and how it's turned from people playing music for the love of doing it to making cash and being famous. It's slowly ruining any sense of purpose to being a musician. But I'm sure you all knew this...every last one of you.

[Lghtsnshwdwn]

Originally Posted by Numerical

LISTN TO MAH SONGZ!!! FEEDBAKZ NAOW!!!.

Arnold Schwarzenegger produces music?

[Ceretops]

If you devolve everything about music you realize that its only sounds. and sounds are just like any other phenomena that your body senses via organs. when you look at colors, no one gets mad when there is a color they dont like. we should all try and judge sounds like we do colors. even if its "bad" its at least something.

[rahoo]

true. while yes other people may listen to it, you gotta trust in yourself a little so that you like what you wrote.

to take it even further haha John Cage, a avant garde composer, and an influence to Aphex Twin, writes lots of stuff that people tell me is too easy/weird/etc. he talks about silence and what notes mean to him, when he writes/hears. may not be completely relevant to this thread but worth a shot i think

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i guess my point is that some might not like your music EVER, just bc of their tastes, but others will love it and so on.

[Evelon]

Common sense is the new orange.

[mischjok]

A wise advice a teacher once gave me:

"use some fucking deodorant, for f**k`s sake!"

[Glazed Ham Sandwich please?]

I can't recall any good advice, but my teachers certainly taught me a lot of things without meaning to.

Like that your superiors usually aren't superior to you because they're better at things or smarter or more capable, just because they blagged their way into a position of power.

[YoMyEX]

Originally Posted by Numerical

I just try not to have some big money-oriented grand scheme, I love making tunes and shouldn't have to have an audience come to mind when I write something. Alot of kids think this is easy money, and maybe it is for some social whores who spam the fuck out of the internet LISTN TO MAH SONGZ!!! FEEDBAKZ NAOW!!!

I just get sick of the "industry" and how it's turned from people playing music for the love of doing it to making cash and being famous. It's slowly ruining any sense of purpose to being a musician. But I'm sure you all knew this...every last one of you.

All the problems we see with the music industry (or any industry/institution for that matter) arises from financial gain. Reason we have the same artists playing the same sounds, being played over and over on radio stations day in and day out? Money. Reason why we continue to use petroleum-based products, even when we know they are harmful to our planet and its inhabitants? Money. Reason why Hollywood continues to spew out uninspiring, unmemorable movies? Because of the money.

Innovation, progress, and efficiency is the enemy to profit, and this is why it is so hard to introduce new ideas into commercial markets, ESPECIALLY if money cannot be made out of it.
Companies and industry dont give a fuck about you. Oh you got money? Well then step right in.

[mimicry]

Originally Posted by Ceretops

If you devolve everything about music you realize that its only sounds. and sounds are just like any other phenomena that your body senses via organs. when you look at colors, no one gets mad when there is a color they dont like. we should all try and judge sounds like we do colors. even if its "bad" its at least something.

Colour is frequency. No one gets mad at a 259 Hz sine wave on a reasonable volume as well (unless it's distracting them or they're sleeping or something). But we get much more information visually than just single colours. Extreme brightness, annoying contrasts, movement (for example, strobes), a really boring late autumn morning in grayscale etc. Or you can have a negative emotional reaction because of connections your brain makes when you see something... A swastika, that guy you owe money to, puke on the sidewalk etc.

Same with sounds. They can hurt your ears, make you confused or bored, make you feel ashamed, stupid or stressed.

And most of these reactions are instinctive, you can't really do much to control them. It's OK to hate a bit.

[twilitez]

I disagree with first advice. If something you make honestly sounds really good to you, odds are other people will like it too, unless your really weird.

[Ceretops]

well said man, i never thought about it that way. thanks

[Mr Song]

Almost anything will sound good if it's done with conviction. If musicians always made music that people wanted to hear, there'd be no innovation outside some set parameters, and we'd probably be limited to one or two genres. Not sure what they'd be, though.

[mr.Qaobab]

Originally Posted by Evelon

Common sense is the new orange.

True.
I have another one: Use your ears when making music!

[aeoR]

Originally Posted by twilitez

I disagree with first advice. If something you make honestly sounds really good to you, odds are other people will like it too, unless your really weird.

welcome to idmf

[Blingley]

Originally Posted by mr.Qaobab

True.
I have another one: Use your ears when making music!

Too mainstream. Poking your eardrums and producing deaf is the most underground way to go about it.

[ckiiln]

Originally Posted by Blingley

Too mainstream. Poking your eardrums and producing deaf is the most underground way to go about it.

Yeah, that stuff requires talent.

[Slump]

Originally Posted by rahoo

Brilliant video, thank you!