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Old 08-05-2018, 09:57 PM   #1
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Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

I'm looking into getting outboard effects to use with the daw. I don't like being so ITB, but I'm having trouble deciding on which eq I need. Mono is fine, 10+ bands or more, don't care if its a pedal or a rack unit.

The MXR M108s pedal looks good ($129), but I could get an older DBX 131 or Art 341 for almost half the price of the MXR ($75). Does anyone here send tracks from their daw out to an eq, and if so what do you use or suggest?

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:43 PM   #2
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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

Schiit is rumored to be working on a bigger badder version of Loki, which is their band fixed eq with a focus on hifi. I'll let you know if anything comes of it, possibly this summer, but they're notoriously tight lipped about upcoming products. Still, with their track record, I would expect something extraordinary if anything comes of these rumors.

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Old 09-05-2018, 01:59 AM   #3
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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

I had a dbx 2015 years ago that I used for all sorts of things (mostly with a Fostex 4-track) and was really serviceable. In fact, all the dbx gear I've ever used was pretty decent for the money. I haven't owned anything by them lately, but it might be a starting point.

That said, I really wouldn't be looking at an EQ for outboard gear. They're useful but not that interesting. You're not going to get the cool sort of coloration off most EQs that you would out of a hardware compressor/limitor or 90s reverb or muliteffects unit. I'd be looking at something like an MPX-100 or 200 or an ADA MP-1 or an dbx 1066 as a cool and affordable starting point for outboard.

For what it's worth, I've used a lot of outboard EQs in various scenarios, and I'd trade them all for the FabFilter Pro-Q2.

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Old 09-05-2018, 03:33 AM   #4
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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

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I had a dbx 2015 years ago that I used for all sorts of things (mostly with a Fostex 4-track) and was really serviceable. In fact, all the dbx gear I've ever used was pretty decent for the money. I haven't owned anything by them lately, but it might be a starting point.

That said, I really wouldn't be looking at an EQ for outboard gear. They're useful but not that interesting. You're not going to get the cool sort of coloration off most EQs that you would out of a hardware compressor/limitor or 90s reverb or muliteffects unit. I'd be looking at something like an MPX-100 or 200 or an ADA MP-1 or an dbx 1066 as a cool and affordable starting point for outboard.

For what it's worth, I've used a lot of outboard EQs in various scenarios, and I'd trade them all for the FabFilter Pro-Q2.
I was looking at getting a DigiTech rp360 but it's eq is only 3 band and I really want more control than that hence looking for a 10 band to put before the DigiTech. I know I can eq ITB but feel like I could better dial in the tone I want if I can actually touch it.

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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

If you're not above pedals, I think boss makes some that are up to 20 bands. Will look for a source, but I had the same idea once upon a time

Edit: Those Digitech's in the RP line are still worth it for various other outboard effects, especially if you really like to dial things in by hand

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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

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I was looking at getting a DigiTech rp360 but it's eq is only 3 band and I really want more control than that hence looking for a 10 band to put before the DigiTech. I know I can eq ITB but feel like I could better dial in the tone I want if I can actually touch it.
Gotcha. My point is EQs aren't very special as far as sound goes and they're generally transparent until you get into valve based parametrics like Pultecs and Manelys (which are seriously expensive kit). I'd just buy whatever's in your price range and give it a shot. If I was buying new, I'd likely consider one of those Behringer Ultrawhatever 15 band jobs, or maybe the dbx 215 as they're both cheap and will probably work as well as anything else. I've got a Boss GE-7 that's sat between my guitars and amps for over a decade and it's a pretty good EQ that can be had on the cheap, though it may be on the noisy side for outboard work.

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Old 09-05-2018, 03:45 PM   #7
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though it may be on the noisy side for outboard work.
And that's my concern. I know a lot of these eqs are fine for live performance, but I'm hoping to find something that is quiet enough for recording and on all instruments, but I'm starting to doubt I'll find one in my price range.

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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

I don't remember my 2015 being overly noisy, but it's possible I wasn't paying as much attention back then. It certainly wasn't anywhere as bad as my GE-7. You're certainly right that most graphic EQs are made for live sound. I rarely see them in pro recording studios (where they just love those expensive parametric EQs, and for good reason). Even then, tech has come a long way and I wouldn't rule out a dbx or Berhinger as a possibility, just make sure you get one with a return policy.

The GE-7 is so noisy because of the TL022 chips it uses, which were bargin basement and had terrible rating for sound. Swapping them out to TL072s and changing out the shitty RC tant caps turns it into a world class stomp box (with the tradeoff of eating batteries or requiring a wall wart). I can't imagine that even the cheapest rackmounts would be that bad.

Another option might be using a VST with a control surface, something like a Korg Nanocontrol2, mapped to whatever bands you want. I know it's not quite as immediately tactile, but it'd give you physical feedback as well as being useful beyond just an EQ. I dunno, just spit balling at this point.

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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

I use an old Orban 674a. Eight fully parametric bands... 16 when channels linked.

People ask a lot of cash for them but you may get lucky and find one for 200-300 like me.
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Re: Suggestions for an affordable outboard 10+ band eq?

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I use an old Orban 674a. Eight fully parametric bands... 16 when channels linked.

People ask a lot of cash for them but you may get lucky and find one for 200-300 like me.
Last time I asked around about a hardware EQ this is what was recommended to me.

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