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Old 30-09-2012, 01:18 AM   #1
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Hi everyone!

I'm looking for a little bit of help/recommendations. I want to start creating my own electronic music tracks (so I'm not much into mixing). But I would like to know what is the best controller to do this and what's the pest operating system software for it. I would appreciate your comments and help.

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Old 30-09-2012, 02:04 AM   #2
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best OS is one that runs the DAW you want to use.
Best DAW is the one you feel most comfortable/creative with.
Best controller is the one that offers you the control you want. :U


Best route to find those things out: try as many DAWs as you can, and think very long and hard about what you want to control, if you want to use it live or not, and what controller will work for that. demo said controllers in person if at all possible.

although for someone starting out, a controller with a bit of everything such as the akai MPK(or MPD if you don't want keys) is a good choice. they're not terribly expensive and offer plenty of control choices, so you can try out various ways of controlling things.

I advise you do a lot of reading around on the forum here and on google, and most importantly TRY STUFF OUT. what I think is best could be vastly different from what works for you.

Personally, I prefer to work in Ableton Live and sometimes Renoise, and I tend to just work with my mouse a lot, but for controllers I have an M-audio trigger finger, an m-audio oxygen 49, a Novation Launchpad and an Arduinome, as well as TouchOSC on my ipod touch. Those last two require you to create templates/do some routing programming so not so great for a beginner probably, the Trigger Finger is a pretty decent pad controller that works quite well, the launchpad is great for use in Live although to use it with other programs can be tricky. the Oxygen is a pretty good keyboard although it's not the sturdiest one out there, it plays fine however.

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Hi Ralphloux, from my experience the best midi controller is the one you are most easy with line live playing imo. I use an mpk controller with pads but still use the keyboard to tap out the drums because my first instrument was the piano: if you're not instrument driven I would recommend a decent mpc as a midi controller, it should cover all needs and easy to use. from what I've seen )
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how big is that device?

I'm using mpk 49.. to big imo.
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it's tiny. the keys are smaller and it's two octaves. the mpd18 isn't much bigger either.

they're good for conserving space on a desk, which i need. the downside is, i don't have a big enough keyboard to practise properly on. =\

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best OS is one that runs the DAW you want to use.
Best DAW is the one you feel most comfortable/creative with.
Best controller is the one that offers you the control you want. :U


Best route to find those things out: try as many DAWs as you can, and think very long and hard about what you want to control, if you want to use it live or not, and what controller will work for that. demo said controllers in person if at all possible.

although for someone starting out, a controller with a bit of everything such as the akai MPK(or MPD if you don't want keys) is a good choice. they're not terribly expensive and offer plenty of control choices, so you can try out various ways of controlling things.

I advise you do a lot of reading around on the forum here and on google, and most importantly TRY STUFF OUT. what I think is best could be vastly different from what works for you.

Personally, I prefer to work in Ableton Live and sometimes Renoise, and I tend to just work with my mouse a lot, but for controllers I have an M-audio trigger finger, an m-audio oxygen 49, a Novation Launchpad and an Arduinome, as well as TouchOSC on my ipod touch. Those last two require you to create templates/do some routing programming so not so great for a beginner probably, the Trigger Finger is a pretty decent pad controller that works quite well, the launchpad is great for use in Live although to use it with other programs can be tricky. the Oxygen is a pretty good keyboard although it's not the sturdiest one out there, it plays fine however.
Thanks a lot! I will take everything you said in consideration, will google the stuff you just talked about. I really appreciate your response and time.
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Old 30-09-2012, 10:20 AM   #9
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Wow! Thanks! Really useful information!!
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Old 30-09-2012, 10:23 AM   #10
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Thanks a lot! I appreciate your response and will take it in consideration. Just waiting to get paid in a couple of weeks and take this recommendations to start my studio. This means a lot and appreciate the time you took to make a response.
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Old 30-09-2012, 03:47 PM   #11
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Best piece of advice I can give is don't buy too much up front. Just the very basics. If already have a computer that is capable of running the DAW of your choice stick with that. IMO, I wouldn't even get into MIDI controllers yet, but that is really up to you.

Start by demoing DAWs and learning how to write simple melodies and beats with simple bassline while also learning some rudimentary subtractive synthesis techniques.

Reaper has a fully functional demo with no time limit. Maybe start there? There are plenty of good, free programs beyond that to get you started.

Everyone is always so sure that they are willing to put the time and effort in to learn the massive amount of things you have to know to get even a semi decent track written and produced. Be REALLY sure before you dump thousands of dollars into this.

Straight up, it's going to take years. Congrats on beginning an awesome journey though man.

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i'd say ableton is a great start and isn't a very complicated DAW so i figure it's just as good to start on as FL studio. if you decide to get ableton, score one of the lite version (Ableton Lite or Ableton Live Intro), they're pretty cheap and great to start on. it's how i did before i scored my full version

you should also make use of the youtube tutorials that teach you the basics. within a year i made a pinchful of decent songs but more importantly i had a good understanding of the DAW. half the battle is being able to maneuver through your DAW with ease well maybe not half the battle...

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i'd say ableton is a great start and isn't a very complicated DAW so i figure it's just as good to start on as FL studio. if you decide to get ableton, score one of the lite version (Ableton Lite or Ableton Live Intro), they're pretty cheap and great to start on. it's how i did before i scored my full version

you should also make use of the youtube tutorials that teach you the basics. within a year i made a pinchful of decent songs but more importantly i had a good understanding of the DAW. half the battle is being able to maneuver through your DAW with ease well maybe not half the battle...

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I appreciate your help and time, thanks a lot!
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Thank you very much for the reply, will take advice in consideration... Hope I can share some music for ya'll to hear in the future.
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Fl Studio is good to start with

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