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Old 19-01-2014, 01:40 AM   #1
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[Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

Firstly I am not a expert mixer but wanted to share a technique I use to make my drums pop harder without compressers well sort of. I'm useing ableton so I'll be using drum rack.

1. Download Flux Bittersweet: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register]

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2. Once downloaded and installed, open ableton, now open drum rack.

3. put the samples you want to use in the rack slots.

(Optional) 4.turn the velocity up on all samples in the rack.

5. Now add a eq to your Kicks and snares. Kick should peak around 60 hz and snares 200-220 hz

6. now add flux bittersweet to your kicks and snares then turn the knob to the right it'll make the sample loud crunchy.

7. add another to flux to master of the drum rack which means dont add the effect to particular sample (You can add individual effects to individual samples in the rack by dragging an effect over the sampler)

8. Now add reverb, just a little bit unless you want more.

9. now freeze the track and drag it to a audio track

10. Finally add a limiter to the audio track as it will most likely go into the red on the volume meter.

I hope you enjoy this tutorial, again I'm a noob at tutorials so if theres anything you need help with just ask. BUT I will not spoon feed you everything, trust me I know what thats like, seeking knowledge I mean. But like my mentor once told me "Its better you learn yourself, than to rely on people".

Good luck and happy producing!:holadines:

just in case add a compressor though

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Old 19-01-2014, 04:34 AM   #2
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

what does bittersweet do though? I mean, it does say "processing tool for managing audio transients" but what does that mean?

From looking at it, it just looks like flux soundgoodizer.

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Old 19-01-2014, 05:05 AM   #3
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

Its a transient shaper from what I know it make things tighter

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Old 19-01-2014, 05:10 AM   #4
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

I'm not good at effects so I wouldn't go into detail. Just know it works well.
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Old 19-01-2014, 09:52 AM   #5
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

It's an expander/gate, pretty much. Transient shaper seems to be their new/modern name, which also have relative/dynamic threshold (instead of fixed as the expander/gate).

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Old 19-01-2014, 10:02 AM   #6
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

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It's an expander/gate, pretty much. Transient shaper seems to be their new/modern name, which also have relative/dynamic threshold (instead of fixed as the expander/gate).
lol sorry guy I was just trying to help not doin a very good job I suppose... heheh....
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

I was also trying to help.

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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

another thing as-well mate eqing a kick at 60 is to low maybe if its a weighty 808 (even then 65 to 70 hz)
but kicks usually hit around the 85 to 115 mark. (i kill off around 50 to 60 hz on a kick ma bey even more as that's where the low rumble is and it generally not needed at all) 100hz is the safest bet for a kick.

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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

Most of us mix by turning things down instead of turning things up and then limiting them. It's all about relative volume, so if you turn all the things down, you have some room.
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

Flux may be an expander as Evelon said when turned to the right, but when turned to the left it's a very good transparent limiter and since it primarily acts upon transients in terms of both frequency and timing, it is YES, A TRANSIENT SHAPER (TRANSIENT BRICK WALL PEAK LIMITER).

They are super handy, since most percussive sounds have huge transients which can otherwise "steal" a lot of amplitude headroom which is better otherwise used for EQ or whatnot.

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Old 20-01-2014, 02:28 AM   #11
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

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another thing as-well mate eqing a kick at 60 is to low maybe if its a weighty 808 (even then 65 to 70 hz)
but kicks usually hit around the 85 to 115 mark. (i kill off around 50 to 60 hz on a kick ma bey even more as that's where the low rumble is and it generally not needed at all) 100hz is the safest bet for a kick.
yeah sorry I use alot of 808's. I'll take that in my mind thanks, wasnt sure what hz to put for a kick now I know. I'm sorry guys for the shitty tutorial I wanted to share how I do it. But I'm not the only one doing this I adapted this from a tut on music radar I think. Theres are way better than this one so might to check it out if I can find it I'll post it here.
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Most of us mix by turning things down instead of turning things up and then limiting them. It's all about relative volume, so if you turn all the things down, you have some room.
lol I guess I'm different.... Is that a bad way of mixing if so I apologize.
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

If everything is loud, nothing is loud. Stereos have a volume knob, not a clarity knob.
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If everything is loud, nothing is loud. Stereos have a volume knob, not a clarity knob.
Agreed, but I only use this on the drums.
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If everything is loud, nothing is loud. Stereos have a volume knob, not a clarity knob.
But I understand none the less apologies
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Re: [Tutorial] How to make Drums pop even without compression

Don't apologise, dude. Reading my post back it sounds harsh and it wasn't meant to. Far out for a first tutorial, not a whole lot of people bother.

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