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Old 06-07-2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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How did you get familiar making techno?

Hey guys,

I've started making music like 2 months ago or something, and making progress. Getting to know the VST's, FL Studio en some techniques, but not so sure how to move on. I've watched tutorials of the program and about music theory on warbeats, and watched like 1 or 2 producers at work on youtube.

Should I just go and watch youtube on how you can apply different techniques? Also I'm curious about good compositions of techno tracks. I know it's very personal but maybe there's some theory or article you would like to share.

My question for you guys is in which way did you learn the most about producing techno? And any other tips you can give me would be great :3

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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Just keep doing it.

2 months is a drop in the bucket. forget about keeping track. i honestly can't remember exactly how long I've been making music because it doesn't matter.

Just keep making stuff and trying to improve. You'll never notice it as it happens; one day you'll just be making a tune and suddenly be like 'wow... I'm a lot better at this than I was before. when did that happen?'
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:56 PM   #3
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Ye I already feel like make progression, but it's just that I wanna hear from people who are already there which things are important to do. I know just doing it is important, but maybe some particular tutorial or site or anything.

Anyway I will keep on going !
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Once youve mastered your synths and vsts which should take some time, your gonna wanna learn automation for your effects. (if you havent gotten into that yet, I recommend it!) Then you can take one of two routes. Either start producing ALOT of your own original tracks to scope out your own sound completely or, some people take a different route and "emulate". That means they find a song or artist they like and they recreate their sounds or sometimes entire tracks completely from scratch. Its a good way to learn to arrange and create effects, and also to learn which effects are used in more "popular" listening. Hope this helps a bit.
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Techno is all about rhythm, fat kicks and bass in my opinion, maybe you should start to get to know the relationship between kick and bass, make a simple pattern, move on to percussion, again make a simple pattern that goes well with the kick and bass pattern. The next thing you could do is to add delay or reversed reverb for instance to certain elements of your percussion, this will create rhythm and drive.
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

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Hey guys,

I've started making music like 2 months ago or something, and making progress. Getting to know the VST's, FL Studio en some techniques, but not so sure how to move on. I've watched tutorials of the program and about music theory on warbeats, and watched like 1 or 2 producers at work on youtube.

Should I just go and watch youtube on how you can apply different techniques? Also I'm curious about good compositions of techno tracks. I know it's very personal but maybe there's some theory or article you would like to share.

My question for you guys is in which way did you learn the most about producing techno? And any other tips you can give me would be great :3
Keep in mind that, while it is always VERY helpful to watch tutorials, the best reward about making music and learning is by finding your own way. Experimental, don't cling to much to the formula's or rules of any genre - adhere to music theory but be open and give yourself room to experiment.

Music genres cannot evolve if the artists are not open to experimenting and doing things that would not be seen CONVENTIONAL. So I reiterate, watch a lot of tutorials, and invest your time over the next year to learning. I suggest keeping a music journal (good for taking notes and adding vital info when you are busy working) I have moved onto my 5th jorunal - and have to admit I have not wrote everything down. lol.

But look at your progress 1 year from now - Goodluck and keep at it.
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

I'm sure they'll be others on here who are more experienced in this field as I've only just made my first "tech" track and in some ways, found this harder to make than breaks, ambient or house, especially without making it sound clichéd and cheesy so I think that what Sublight says about experimenting is key.

I listen to a lot of tech and really try to understand the rhythms and relationship between various elements and note what I like and don't like about a particular track - I think listening and listening has made a big difference when it comes down to actually trying to come up with something decent.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:17 PM   #8
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Yea indeed, I already notice that when I listen to a track I'm taking it apart in my head to judge all the components, but I think lots of people here will have that. And thanks for the advice, I'm now working on my knowledge about synthesizing ^^
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2 months into music are nothing.. just keep it going, practise everyday by making loops that can be the main part of the song.. for eq. take a kick,bass and add some really complex percussion to it.. when you find it perfect delete it and start again with a new loop.. do this for months, also try to play some pads,leads, chords(you can find chord tutorials) and tweak the attack,decay,release parameters so you can get the point what are you really doing.. after do some FX tryouts with reverbs, delays, compressors and sidechaining.. also i suggest you to switch to Ableton since for me its more powerfull and more serious then the FL studio and basically is made more for electronic music.. keep it going

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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Oh yea that is indeed a good suggestion viksamkd. And what kind of kicks and percussion do you use? I've got some sample packs now with like 500 different kicks and some for hats and stuff, but don't know if this is the 'standard'. For basslines I usually Massive but really need to figure this program out, mostly using presets right now :$
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Old 13-07-2012, 01:46 PM   #11
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500 kicks,hats,snares and other percs are great for beggining.. you'll never know if you never try just try and go hard, practise and plan how to split the grooves into separate channels, its personal opinion some put the hats with the shakers togheter some not.. i put everything on different channel so i can experiment more with every sound, but for this you need more pc power and a great soundcard, since the more channels you have the more latency the pc makes.. that goes for me i dont know if its the same with you

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Old 13-07-2012, 11:48 PM   #12
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

I once heard Satoshi Tomiie say 'never use the same kick twice in house and techno'. I tend to agree with him. He is talking about the same untweaked sound of course so there is lots you can do. Sampler tweaks, FX, layering: those 500 you have should last for a LONG time. What you want to do first is really get familiar with the sampler: use the in/ out volume buttons, the pitch, sometimes even the pogo knob. In come cases you could even use the crossfader to pick out a certain section of sample, but dont forget to play it in piano roll if you do, not the step sequencer. Also, you can more or less cut the first half of one kick, and the second half of another one to glue them together and create a new sound, or even add a third one and cut it all except for the last bit of tail. Put these both (or all 3) on the same mixer channel and play with some distortion, maybe some creative compression, whatever you feel like. Theres much more to it of course, but imho a good techno track needs a punchy full bodied kick to work, unless were talking about some of the more obscure subgenres. Doing the above gets you in the right direction for this.
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Old 16-07-2012, 04:08 PM   #13
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

I've been making techno for for more than a decade now. Simple steps.

1. a fat layered kick. normally 2 kicks + (use part of a snare to snap your sub)
2. a simple bass, or 2 basses together (TO GET HER)
3. a top hook. tick tock tick tock won't cut it on the hats. (gotta slide to a snare or something like)
4. a melody that can be simplified to 1 or 2 notes for the body, then comes back musical in the break.
5. Ambient shite that fits...(whales, sirens, voices, strings, anything etc.)

So simple, but awesome sound engineers can make it so good.

PS. and modulate just about everything in some way.

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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

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Just listen what they say. Experimenting with built-in instruments in your DAW as long as you can stand it. I'm not a professional but I also want to be one in the future - i see progress during my time sitting in front of my live. Still buying pieces of equipment and upgrading studio is also involved in a production of any type of music - especially techno. So concentrate in finding your sounds and keep turning all the the possible knobs and faders until you feel it's "you" there in your projects - simple... not!

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Old 17-07-2012, 12:17 AM   #15
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Someone else said it here before. and I so agree, watch tutorials... lots and lots of them. I've been making beats for a long time and still do at every chance. Can never know it all as it's a science.
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Old 20-07-2012, 02:16 PM   #16
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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

haha, yes, some people just try to copy what other artists they love do exactly, nothing wrong with that to practise, others just experiment, nothing wrong with that to progress.
obviously in techno the basis is usually a tr-909 style kick four to the floor, offbeat closed hi-hats and snares and claps so it goes boom hiss crack hiss etc etc .. then get a bass note, or severed kick drum to make a driving bassline notes between the kicks... and then add some lead and clunking noises to taste.. very simple start with beats, add some percussion, drop into into some stupid sample then bring it back it with the bassline and lead etc making sure to tweak the cut off and resonances a lot...

the best tips i can think of are make sure the kick drum and the bassline are not so similar in frequency they clash and the whole mix gets muddy.. and apply that to the whole mix so that each noise has its own frequency range in the spectrum and they dont all mingle together... make sure the kick punches through the mix cos thats wot drives it.. and um.. do whatever u like also try not to over do it and put too many noises in like i often do, better to have fewer noises that are better and you spent more time on...
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Just keep doing it.

2 months is a drop in the bucket. forget about keeping track. i honestly can't remember exactly how long I've been making music because it doesn't matter.
^^^So very true!!^^^ practice makes perfect(ish) lol


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Re: How did you get familiar making techno?

Learn your equipment. Can't stress that enough.

Don't get caught up trying to mess around with 3 or 4 different synths or effects. Learn the ins and outs of one synth and your effects. Same goes for your daw. Read the manual, read some books on it and go through the activities.

For actual techno theory, start in steps. Watch videos/tutorials on how to get a certain type of kick drum, then stick to trying to emulate it. Write down notes, what do you want it to sound like? What it needs more off and what it can do without? This is the same with learning everything else. Keep trying and soon you will start to get a sense of how techno is made.

Remember to save your presets, and write down notes on how you got a particular sound.

Also learn the history. Watch some documentaries for inspiration and see how the big players done it back in the day.

I've been making techno for around a year and I'm still learning so much every day.

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in my opinion with techno it's always less is more. in contrary to what you might think when listening to it, it really is precision work. both arrangement and mixing-wise. as some have said before techno starts sounding awful when you have too many/misplaced sounds or when (the lower) frequencies clash.

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Also learn the history. Watch some documentaries for inspiration and see how the big players done it back in the day.
This, for me, is one of the most important things to do - and it always prevented me from doing some "ethnic" failures....

at least it tells yourself again that you have to absolutely live that producing thing, with all your interests being pointed at sound, if you want to do it right.

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