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Old 25-10-2007, 07:51 PM   #21
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yes ozone 3 does an excellent job as far as a good pre master untill you decide if the material will be used or not.

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Old 25-10-2007, 08:07 PM   #22
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yep!!!!!!! "quick&dirty"... And then come the quality processors
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Old 18-06-2008, 06:33 PM   #23
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Just wanted to let everyone know I am mastering tracks now, I got tired of everybody killing the dynamics. audiovalve.org
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Old 18-06-2008, 06:57 PM   #24
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Re: Mastering

(This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, I just have strong views on this.)
My view is that if you created the music, learn to master it yourself.
The only time a mastering engineer could step in is when your mix is in danger of damaging speakers.
Thats it.
No EQing, no compressing, no limiting, no tape distortion, aside from what you can do yourself, otherwise it isn't completely your work when somebody else shapes your own sound, now is it?
How could a mastering engineer bring out more in the work that you created yourself...
are you that inept at creating your own damn work?
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Old 18-06-2008, 07:02 PM   #25
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(This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, I just have strong views on this.)
My view is that if you created the music, learn to master it yourself.
The only time a mastering engineer could step in is when your mix is in danger of damaging speakers.
Thats it.
No EQing, no compressing, no limiting, no tape distortion, aside from what you can do yourself, otherwise it isn't completely your work when somebody else shapes your own sound, now is it?
How could a mastering engineer bring out more in the work that you created yourself...
are you that inept at creating your own damn work?
I disagree. I think all pre-mastering and such should be done by me, the producer, but in the end there's just no way I can do as good of a job mastering on my meager equipment as a professional with top-end equipment could do.
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Old 18-06-2008, 07:09 PM   #26
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Mastering can bring out more in your mix than you even thought was there.
I offer a free test just to show you what can be done.

people that master their own track that have no idea what they are doing make it sound like shit.
You don't want some limited to death track , you want dynamics not just LOUD and in your face.

Regular monitors you cant hear everything in the frequency and with a room thats not tuned it will just come out worse.

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Old 19-06-2008, 02:20 AM   #27
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Mastering can bring out more in your mix than you even thought was there.
this is where I disagree.
and once again, I say that it's not good to have someone else shaping your sound.

mastering to me is like saying an artist cannot have a gallery show unless the curator comes over and adds paint to the canvas and "brings out" what the artist meant to say.
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Old 19-06-2008, 02:58 AM   #28
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this is where I disagree.
and once again, I say that it's not good to have someone else shaping your sound.

mastering to me is like saying an artist cannot have a gallery show unless the curator comes over and adds paint to the canvas and "brings out" what the artist meant to say.
I don't know about that, I think a better analogy would be that mastering is like adding a very nice frame to the edges of a canvas, leaving the art itself unaltered, but making the final product much more appealing.
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Old 19-06-2008, 03:49 AM   #29
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Mastering is a skill gained through time and development of the ear.

I try to keep it simple and not to complex but yet build a professional sound and create a beautiful frequency wave spectrum.

You need to compression on the right stuff and limiters on the right stuff. You cant just throw it on anything

Most of all, straight out from the sequencer your mix down should sound at its best. Check out some of deadmau5's tracks. If you look at the frequency of his tracks, extremly crisp n clear. Check it out
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Old 30-01-2010, 04:52 PM   #30
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No.

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Old 31-01-2010, 05:06 AM   #31
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Re: Mastering

I generally try to master myself,then send a raw rendition to amastering house and compare the results.To my surprise I find myself getting pretty close to the real thing.And Im getting better every time.I also feel that making a diy master gives you an idea of how it will turn out and if any changes are needed before sending the mix out.
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Old 31-01-2010, 06:43 AM   #32
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that is totally true! as sometime you dont hear some problem your mixdown has before starting to eq and compress for the mastering. For have deal with many producer, at always happens at least once that one of your track has a major problem. As an engineer, i often return back the producer pin pointing what he can fix on the mixdown first that will improve a lot the final result after mastering! ... Unfortunatly, most mastering engineer to bother doing that... they just do their bast with what they have in hand...!

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Old 31-01-2010, 08:43 AM   #33
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Re: Mastering

I might just do that..
posted some stuff on your soundcloud btw.
And I think its a good idea for a mastering engineer to get back to the producer prior to finalizing the master as many things are better dealt with in the mix.
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Re: Mastering

Mastering is the final stage where your track can be improved or damaged.

It is also very common for a mastering engineer to give advice if there is a problem.
(if the engineer has the equipment with which to hear the problems in the first place)

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Old 31-01-2010, 10:29 PM   #35
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Mastering is the final stage where your track can be improved or damaged.

It is also very common for a mastering engineer to give advice if there is a problem.
(if the engineer has the equipment with which to hear the problems in the first place)

Choose with care.
Yes, equipment is a big part but dont forget as well as the room's acoustic treatment is very important. ...and a pair of experimented ears for sure!! lol
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:39 AM   #36
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Re: Mastering

ok. So i'm confused I think.
I'm a totally home grown producer, so i have big information-scape holes.

If I am producing my tracks so that they have the dynamic range/sound quality that I want. And the sound is mixed correctly. What is the difference in what mastering would entail.

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Old 01-02-2010, 08:02 AM   #37
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What is the difference in what mastering would entail.
Optimized (balanced/homogenic/crisp/clear) sound on the rendered stereo master file, that will transfer across well in most mediums.

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Old 01-02-2010, 08:48 AM   #38
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But if I've mixed my track well, shouldn't this already be true?

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Old 01-02-2010, 10:19 AM   #39
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Re: Mastering

As a case in question, 95pct of major releases will have been mixed well but the label
will still get the product mastered as a whole. It's partly QC as well as making (in the case of good mixes) slight adjustments to the spectrum to ensure best reproduction. Whether we like the loudness war or not competitive level is a factor and the ME will have a range of tools to get you where you want with minimal damage.

Here are some good reasons to get your audio mastered :

Bring a number of mixes together as one product (especially if mixed on various systems/studios)

Insertion of sub code data to receive your royalties from radio broadcasts.

Insertion of CD Text and Barcode information

Quality control check on your spectrum through an accurate
room and monitoring system.

To subjectively improve the sound quality of your mixes if necessary.

To correct common problems in frequency response.

To correct/advise on mix problems which may cause playback
problems.

To increase perceived punch and if desired loudness with
least amount of artifacts introduced.

If requested critique of existing mixes.

It can actually be inexpensive.

Increase likelyhood that your CD/DDP master duplicates/replicates at the plant correctly and has a technical contact.

To encode into lossy formats in the best way possible. (for upload to myspace or online labels)

To say your music has been mastered alludes to the fact that you take your musical output seriously.

To maximise compatibility across a variety of playback systems, such as nightclubs, radio broadcasts.

This can only really be done in a room which is accurate and has monitoring which is capable
of revealing more than a standard studio monitor (though in some instances better studio monitors
can be used). Most importantly ME's develop and are not born, check the experience and background of your M.E., when you choose an ME ensure these things are verifiable. I am not pointing any fingers here by the way I am suggesting this is done with every and any person calling themselves an M.E. The choice for this service is absolutely huge and there are literally loads of places online offering mastering services which is fine. However some people are getting their fingers burnt if they do not investigate a little before proceeding.

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Old 01-02-2010, 10:32 AM   #40
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Heya mate,

I've (after about 19 months) finally finished mixing an 11 track album - can you you recomend any of those online/ or an actual studio for mastering?

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