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Old 11-09-2012, 09:00 AM   #1
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Hey! I study music theory and classical composition, so if anyone has some questions on the subject, feel free to ask, I'd be glad to share my knowledge!

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Old 11-10-2012, 05:56 PM   #2
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hhhmmmm, you know lately I been thinking I need a list of every instrument in a full orchestra, and every instruments note range. So when I make my own rompler / sampler sets of instruments I can get them right. I was going to do instrument list, then search every instruments pitch key range. So what is every instruments lowest and highest note? I mean you do not have to answer it, just you might know a quick reference guide on the net or something would be great. I try and write classical like passages of music for exercise sake, and also wonder if what instruments might be usually in different juxtapose keys? lol, does that make sense, as I am not as musically trained.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:32 PM   #3
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Hey! I have a great site with a list of standard and non-standard instruments that are used in an orchestra. I can't post links kuz I'm new to the forum :/ so i'll pm it to you.. Not quite sure what you mean in that last question though. Haha. What do you mean by juxtaposed keys?

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Old 11-10-2012, 06:39 PM   #4
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no but am doing some kinda poly chordal stuff, I meant some instruments are tuned in different tunings to right, so do they get written in different key to then make them into the same key as the rest. Or does that not matter,
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Could I get a PM for that as well? I've been wanting to incorporate orchestral instruments into my arrangements for a while.
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when you write you chord progressions how do you make them really move and feel like they are going somewhere. the only things I really know about chord progressions is that:

1.) they move by root movement of 2nds,3rds and 4ths

2.) I know that you can double the P5th or the root ONLY

3.) I know that adding 7ths adds color to the chord and is more of a preference kinda thing.

4.) I know inversions are meant to make the voicing of the chords less "blocky" so they can flow together better

is there anything I am missing as far as the basics of chord progression and harmony are concerned???
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Show me a chord progression that has no apparent resolution.

No beginning or end once it's in movement.

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Show me a chord progression that has no apparent resolution.

No beginning or end once it's in movement.
The altered chord


Also, for sampling orchestral instruments check the philharmonia page.

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Old 11-12-2012, 04:14 PM   #9
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when you write you chord progressions how do you make them really move and feel like they are going somewhere. the only things I really know about chord progressions is that:

1.) they move by root movement of 2nds,3rds and 4ths

2.) I know that you can double the P5th or the root ONLY

3.) I know that adding 7ths adds color to the chord and is more of a preference kinda thing.

4.) I know inversions are meant to make the voicing of the chords less "blocky" so they can flow together better

is there anything I am missing as far as the basics of chord progression and harmony are concerned???
It's is not true that you can only double the root and 5th. It all depends on what function the chord has. In tonal harmony for example, the V chord contains the leading tone (scale degree 7) as its 3rd, which is a "tension tone" that must resolves to scale degree 1. In this case, the third of the chord should never be doubled since it would sound bad having two pitches doing the same resolution in parallel motion. In most other cases, doubling the third is perfectly fine, and in first inversion chords it's actually the preferred note to double. But this is for tonal harmony (like Bach, Mozart, Haydn kinda stuff). Not sure if that's what you're going for. In jazz tonal harmony, I doesn't really matter if voices resolve and all chords always have a 7th. But if you're writing modal harmony, the rules are even thinner. In modal harmony, 4ths, 5ths, maj2nds, min7ths and maj9ths are the preferred intervals for chord construction (although triadic chords still work fine obviously). I guess what it comes down to though is "does it sound good to me". That's more important than any rule or system. So do what sounds good to you regardless what I just said. Lol. But If you want your chords progressions to sound smoother, write out your chords in root position, then work out the horizontal aspect (voice leading) so that each voice moves as little as possible to get to the other chord. Inversions are the way to do this. Common tones, step-wise motion, and avoid two voices moving in parallel 5ths or octaves kuz it'll stick out! unless thats what youre going for, in which case, they work great!! haha. Hope this helps!!! Let me know if you got any other questions or if I missed something, I'll try and answer the best I can!

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